25 Responses to “Javelin Unit – the future of high speed domestic rail travel”
the absolutely … the absolutely suitable answer from a jerk in baked beans on toast, 19th century twin taps pothole ridden 70mph, GBP only worth almost a euro (because the country is rated as such), ill insulated houses, still using cheques that clear after 5 days, lie, talk act and copy everything the yanks do land. You too mate. Enjoy.
That sounded like … That sounded like the Jubilee Line’s motor and Class 377/357 Electrostars.. It has that same engine but made by Hitachi.. Amazing Dual Voltage Japanese built British trains.. Thanks so much Japan..
but 140 is hardly … but 140 is hardly high speed. German boxy locos have been doing that for over 30 years. They got them to do those speeds with older coaches after the Eschede ICE crash so that all the timetables stayed stable. High speed I consider to be 180+. Why we brits just kid ourselves all day long beats me. We should just upgrade our tracks and buy in TGVs and ICEs and just well get with it (and get rid of our separate hot and cold taps while we’re about it). grrrr. UK is it our duty to lag behind?
Actually after … Actually after being reminded, it wasn’t loading guage problems.
The Eurostars were a temporary ‘replacement’ for the Class 91 sets so that GNER (As it was then) could re-furbish it’s Class 91 sets and still run a full service.
Actually no, a 73 … Actually no, a 73 is duel powered. They can run on 3rd rail or in diesel mode. The Javelins don’t have diesel engines in them.
Also the Eurostars used to run as far as Leeds, with one or two test runs as far as Glasgow from King’s Cross. The reason they no longer run on the ECML was to do with loading guage problems, not because they ‘use too much electric’.
TGVs would be cool … TGVs would be cool on our railway, but TGVs were designed for high speed only. These trains will be covering high speed and slow speed regional routes, so we need something small and suitable that can also fit on small local stations, which is why the UK prefers multiple unit trains rather than locomotive-driven trains. High Speed 1 is only 95 kilometres long compared to all of France’s high speed network.
There’s no need for … There’s no need for these trains to tilt because the corners on High Speed 1 aren’t necessarily tight like the ones on the West Coast Mainline. And as FastandBluesaid, Eurostars don’t tilt either.
As far as I could … As far as I could tell it was down to speed and reliability of the doors closing to help reduce train standing times.. can you imagine plug types on the London Underground??? In fact, I would also criticise the 313 replacements on the Overground lines if plug type doors were used here, especially for the North London line.
They are beautiful … They are beautiful trains, I cant wait until they enter service, I am going to try and be one of the first to ride them, even if they cost £68 return from Ebbsfleet.
Thanks for Sharing. 5/5
25 Responses to “Javelin Unit – the future of high speed domestic rail travel”
the absolutely …
the absolutely suitable answer from a jerk in baked beans on toast, 19th century twin taps pothole ridden 70mph, GBP only worth almost a euro (because the country is rated as such), ill insulated houses, still using cheques that clear after 5 days, lie, talk act and copy everything the yanks do land. You too mate. Enjoy.
By trident3b on Jan 8, 2010
Fuck you
you
By matthewsmith465 on Jan 8, 2010
That sounded like …
That sounded like the Jubilee Line’s motor and Class 377/357 Electrostars.. It has that same engine but made by Hitachi.. Amazing Dual Voltage Japanese built British trains.. Thanks so much Japan..
By andyncfcgetshypedup on Jan 8, 2010
but 140 is hardly …
but 140 is hardly high speed. German boxy locos have been doing that for over 30 years. They got them to do those speeds with older coaches after the Eschede ICE crash so that all the timetables stayed stable. High speed I consider to be 180+. Why we brits just kid ourselves all day long beats me. We should just upgrade our tracks and buy in TGVs and ICEs and just well get with it (and get rid of our separate hot and cold taps while we’re about it). grrrr. UK is it our duty to lag behind?
By trident3b on Jan 8, 2010
Actually after …
Actually after being reminded, it wasn’t loading guage problems.
The Eurostars were a temporary ‘replacement’ for the Class 91 sets so that GNER (As it was then) could re-furbish it’s Class 91 sets and still run a full service.
By expressboy1983 on Jan 8, 2010
Actually no, a 73 …
Actually no, a 73 is duel powered. They can run on 3rd rail or in diesel mode. The Javelins don’t have diesel engines in them.
Also the Eurostars used to run as far as Leeds, with one or two test runs as far as Glasgow from King’s Cross. The reason they no longer run on the ECML was to do with loading guage problems, not because they ‘use too much electric’.
Research research, research!
By expressboy1983 on Jan 8, 2010
eurostars dont run …
eurostars dont run any father north than peterborough because they use so much electric
By EastMidlandsSteam on Jan 8, 2010
basically a 73
basically a 73
By EastMidlandsSteam on Jan 8, 2010
ok thanks m8.
ok thanks m8.
By robertparmar on Jan 8, 2010
Can’t wait to see …
Can’t wait to see footage of the Javlin doing 140MPH!
By viewson800 on Jan 8, 2010
Two simple reasons. …
Two simple reasons.
1: London Viccy has no overhead lines.
2: Javelin’s are fitted as ‘Dual Voltage’. Meaning they can draw power from either 25kV OHL, or 750V DC 3rd rail.
By expressboy1983 on Jan 8, 2010
why in it useing …
why in it useing its pantograph for the overhead power
By robertparmar on Jan 8, 2010
good thing cause …
good thing cause Hitachi plans (or already has) to build plants in UK, not to take up Jobs of British people…
By newsmaniaingaidai on Jan 8, 2010
TGVs would be cool …
TGVs would be cool on our railway, but TGVs were designed for high speed only. These trains will be covering high speed and slow speed regional routes, so we need something small and suitable that can also fit on small local stations, which is why the UK prefers multiple unit trains rather than locomotive-driven trains. High Speed 1 is only 95 kilometres long compared to all of France’s high speed network.
By StapledNote on Jan 8, 2010
dont trust em as …
dont trust em as far as i can spit em
By boomheadshot75 on Jan 8, 2010
great vid!!!! lovin …
great vid!!!! lovin these trains
By peggey707 on Jan 8, 2010
日立395シリーズは良いですね。日本の …
日立395シリーズは良いですね。日本のE3系新幹線のつばさ、こまちよりもカッコ良いです。
By haguruma5751 on Jan 8, 2010
why dont uk by tgvs …
why dont uk by tgvs? i mean u already have eurostars almost same
we are right next door guys
or buy alstom tilting trains
By economistfury on Jan 8, 2010
There’s no need for …
There’s no need for these trains to tilt because the corners on High Speed 1 aren’t necessarily tight like the ones on the West Coast Mainline. And as FastandBluesaid, Eurostars don’t tilt either.
By StapledNote on Jan 8, 2010
As far as I could …
As far as I could tell it was down to speed and reliability of the doors closing to help reduce train standing times.. can you imagine plug types on the London Underground??? In fact, I would also criticise the 313 replacements on the Overground lines if plug type doors were used here, especially for the North London line.
By TheSaintST1 on Jan 8, 2010
awesome trains!! …
awesome trains!! great catch 5*
By TheXtremeEnthusiast on Jan 8, 2010
the 395 units have …
the 395 units have great acceleration
By whatsupdealer on Jan 8, 2010
They are beautiful …
They are beautiful trains, I cant wait until they enter service, I am going to try and be one of the first to ride them, even if they cost £68 return from Ebbsfleet.
Thanks for Sharing. 5/5
By GreatRailwayJourneys on Jan 8, 2010
cool train
cool train
By seestickglue232 on Jan 8, 2010
Victoria is a …
Victoria is a Diversionary London Terminus.
By FastandBlue on Jan 8, 2010